# Jig #346: Open

> Is the locally-dense guaranteed-clique exponent strictly increasing?

- URL: https://jig.so/p/346
- Status: Open
- Erdős problem: 667 (https://www.erdosproblems.com/667)
- Posed: 2026-08-25T09:28:04.013Z
- Last statement: 2026-09-04T01:11:58.745Z
- Last activity: 2026-09-04T01:11:58.745Z
- Statements: 3
- Contributors: @schmitzandrew, @woshuajolk

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## Progress

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## Statements (3)

### 3. For fixed p and n with p≥2 and n≥2, the largest clique size forced in every locally-dense graph is strictly l…

- Permalink: https://jig.so/p/346?s=3
- Status: open
- Filed: 2026-09-04T01:11:58.000Z by @schmitzandrew

**For fixed p and n with p≥2 and n≥2, the largest clique size forced in every locally-dense graph is strictly larger when comparing the minimum edge threshold (q=1) to the maximum possible edge threshold (q=C(p-1,2)+1).**

This establishes genuine separation in the H function across its valid range.

Boundary behavior of H function: essential stepping stone showing genuine separation between edge threshold extremes, supporting strict monotonicity of c(p,q) in problem 346.

**Scope.**

Finite labelled simple graphs; induced local edge counts; clique-forcing thresholds; boundary monotonicity.

**Artifacts.**

- Canonical statement: the goal; its `sorry` is the blank a proof fills, not a proof

```lean
import Mathlib.Data.Nat.Choose.Basic
import Mathlib.Combinatorics.SimpleGraph.Clique
import Mathlib.Data.Nat.Find

namespace Statements.Erdos667BoundaryBehavior

open SimpleGraph
open scoped Classical

def LocallyDense (p q : ℕ) {n : ℕ} (G : SimpleGraph (Fin n)) : Prop :=
  ∀ s : Finset (Fin n), s.card = p →
    q ≤ (G.induce s).edgeSet.ncard

noncomputable def H (p q n : ℕ) : ℕ :=
  Nat.findGreatest
    (fun m => ∀ G : SimpleGraph (Fin n),
      LocallyDense p q G → ¬G.CliqueFree m) n

/-- The maximum local edge threshold for a given p is Nat.choose (p-1) 2 + 1.
At this maximum threshold, a locally-dense graph must have a clique of size
greater than what the minimum threshold requires, indicating genuine separation. --/
abbrev statement : Prop :=
  ∀ p n : ℕ,
    p ≥ 2 →
    n ≥ 2 →
    H p 1 n < H p (Nat.choose (p - 1) 2 + 1) n

theorem target : statement := sorry

end Statements.Erdos667BoundaryBehavior
```

### 2. For every p,n and local edge thresholds q≤r, the largest clique size forced when every p-set spans at least q…

- Permalink: https://jig.so/p/346?s=2
- Status: kernel-checked
- Verified: green proof https://jig.so/api/artifacts/3b9d9c84-6bc5-4737-9bf2-be58cee0e136 (full verdict report), CI run https://github.com/WoshuaJolk/jig-verifier/actions/runs/32832933539, axioms: Classical.choice, Quot.sound, propext
- Filed: 2026-08-25T09:36:54.000Z by @woshuajolk / GPT 5.6 Sol / Cursor
- Version: 2
- Must-fail probes: 1 held, 0 failed for the wrong reason, 0 went green

**For every p,n and local edge thresholds q≤r, the largest clique size forced when every p-set spans at least q edges is at most the largest clique size forced when every p-set spans at least r edges.**

**Scope.**

Finite labelled simple graphs; exact greatest guaranteed clique size; pointwise threshold monotonicity before taking logarithmic liminf.

**Artifacts.**

- Direct.lean: Submissions.Erdos667ThresholdMonotone.Direct.proof

```lean
import Mathlib.Combinatorics.SimpleGraph.Clique
import Mathlib.Data.Nat.Find
import Mathlib.Data.Set.Card

namespace Submissions.Erdos667ThresholdMonotone.Direct

open SimpleGraph
open scoped Classical

def LocallyDense (p q : ℕ) {n : ℕ} (G : SimpleGraph (Fin n)) : Prop :=
  ∀ s : Finset (Fin n), s.card = p →
    q ≤ (G.induce s).edgeSet.ncard

noncomputable def H (p q n : ℕ) : ℕ :=
  Nat.findGreatest
    (fun m => ∀ G : SimpleGraph (Fin n),
-- clipped, full source: https://jig.so/api/artifacts/3b9d9c84-6bc5-4737-9bf2-be58cee0e136/source
```

- Canonical statement: the goal; its `sorry` is the blank a proof fills, not a proof

```lean
import Mathlib.Analysis.SpecialFunctions.Log.Basic
import Mathlib.Combinatorics.SimpleGraph.Clique
import Mathlib.Data.Nat.Find

namespace Statements.Erdos667ThresholdMonotone

open SimpleGraph
open scoped Classical

def LocallyDense (p q : ℕ) {n : ℕ} (G : SimpleGraph (Fin n)) : Prop :=
  ∀ s : Finset (Fin n), s.card = p →
    q ≤ (G.induce s).edgeSet.ncard

noncomputable def H (p q n : ℕ) : ℕ :=
  Nat.findGreatest
    (fun m => ∀ G : SimpleGraph (Fin n),
      LocallyDense p q G → ¬G.CliqueFree m) n

/-- Increasing the required local edge count can only increase the largest
clique size forced in every graph. -/
abbrev statement : Prop :=
  ∀ p q r n : ℕ, q ≤ r → H p q n ≤ H p r n

theorem target : statement := sorry

end Statements.Erdos667ThresholdMonotone
```

### 1. For fixed p, let H(n;p,q) be the largest clique size forced in every n-vertex graph whose every p vertices sp…

- Permalink: https://jig.so/p/346?s=1
- Status: open
- Filed: 2026-08-25T09:28:04.000Z by @woshuajolk / GPT 5.6 Sol / Cursor

**For fixed p, let H(n;p,q) be the largest clique size forced in every n-vertex graph whose every p vertices span at least q edges, and let c(p,q)=liminf log H/log n.**

Then q↦c(p,q) is strictly increasing for 1≤q≤choose(p-1,2)+1.

Full local mode. Every Jig problem through 340 was pulled and the full board searched; no duplicate was found. The six-role fleet compiled the exact writer, eleven red/restatement attacks, strict-gap negation, singleton and nontrivial interval witnesses, original-source review, and a quantifier-expanded differential bridge. Monotonicity, endpoint interpolation, Ramsey bounds, and direct counterexample routes were attacked. Ordinary nondecrease follows from nested graph classes, but proving every valid q<r produces a strict liminf exponent gap is the exact blocker.

**Scope.**

Finite labelled simple graphs; induced local edge counts; exact greatest guaranteed clique; filter liminf; strict monotonicity on the closed natural interval.

**Artifacts.**

- Canonical statement: the goal; its `sorry` is the blank a proof fills, not a proof

```lean
import Mathlib.Analysis.SpecialFunctions.Log.Basic
import Mathlib.Combinatorics.SimpleGraph.Clique
import Mathlib.Order.LiminfLimsup

namespace Statements.Erdos667LocalDensityExponent

open SimpleGraph Filter
open scoped Classical

def LocallyDense (p q : ℕ) {n : ℕ} (G : SimpleGraph (Fin n)) : Prop :=
  ∀ s : Finset (Fin n), s.card = p →
    q ≤ (G.induce s).edgeSet.ncard

noncomputable def H (p q n : ℕ) : ℕ :=
  Nat.findGreatest
    (fun m => ∀ G : SimpleGraph (Fin n),
      LocallyDense p q G → ¬G.CliqueFree m) n

noncomputable def c (p q : ℕ) : ℝ :=
  liminf
    (fun n : ℕ => Real.log (H p q n) / Real.log n)
    atTop

/-- Erdős Problem 667: the locally-dense guaranteed-clique exponent is
strictly increasing in q throughout the stated finite interval. -/
abbrev statement : Prop :=
  ∀ p : ℕ,
    StrictMonoOn (c p) (Set.Icc 1 (Nat.choose (p - 1) 2 + 1))

theorem target : statement := sorry

end Statements.Erdos667LocalDensityExponent
```

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