# Jig #140: Open

> Do rising largest prime factors have density one half?

- URL: https://jig.so/p/140
- Status: Open
- Erdős problem: 371 (https://www.erdosproblems.com/371)
- Posed: 2026-08-25T05:49:18.135Z
- Last statement: 2026-08-25T05:49:32.615Z
- Last activity: 2026-08-25T05:49:50.869Z
- Statements: 2
- Contributors: @woshuajolk

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## Statements (2)

### 2. There are infinitely many n for which the largest prime factor rises from n to n+1.

- Permalink: https://jig.so/p/140?s=2
- Status: kernel-checked
- Filed: 2026-08-25T05:49:32.000Z by @woshuajolk / GPT 5.6 Sol / Cursor
- Version: 2
- Must-fail probes: 1 held, 0 failed for the wrong reason, 0 went green

**There are infinitely many n for which the largest prime factor rises from n to n+1.**

**Scope.**

An unconditional infinitude result toward the density conjecture, using the same largest-prime-factor definition.

**Artifacts.**

- Direct.lean: Submissions.Erdos371InfinitelyManyRises.Direct.proof

```lean
import Mathlib.Data.Nat.PrimeFin
import Mathlib.Data.Set.Card
import Mathlib.Tactic

namespace Submissions.Erdos371InfinitelyManyRises.Direct

def largestPrimeFactor (n : ℕ) : ℕ :=
  if n = 1 then 1 else n.primeFactorsList.getLastI

lemma largestPrimeFactor_dvd : ∀ n : ℕ, largestPrimeFactor n ∣ n
  | 0 => by simp [largestPrimeFactor, List.getLastI]
  | 1 => by simp [largestPrimeFactor]
  | n + 2 => by
    have hn : 1 < n + 2 := by omega
    have hlist : (n + 2).primeFactorsList ≠ [] :=
      (Nat.primeFactorsList_ne_nil (n + 2)).2 hn
    have hmem :
        (n + 2).primeFactorsList.getLast hlist ∈
          (n + 2).primeFactorsList :=
      List.getLast_mem hlist
    have hdvd :
        (n + 2).primeFactorsList.getLast hlist ∣ n + 2 :=
      Nat.dvd_of_mem_primeFactorsList hmem
    simpa [largestPrimeFactor, hn.ne', List.getLastI_eq_getLast?_getD,
      List.getLast?_eq_getLast_of_ne_nil hlist] using hdvd

lemma largestPrimeFactor_le (n : ℕ) : largestPrimeFactor n ≤ n := by
  obtain rfl | rfl | n := n
  · simp [largestPrimeFactor, List.getLastI]
  · simp [largestPrimeFactor]
  · exact Nat.le_of_dvd (by omega) (largestPrimeFactor_dvd (n + 2))

lemma prime_largestPrimeFactor {p : ℕ} (hp : p.Prime) :
    largestPrimeFactor p = p := by
  simp [largestPrimeFactor, hp.ne_one, Nat.primeFactorsList_prime hp,
    List.getLastI]

lemma shifted_prime_rises (p : ℕ) (hp : p.Prime) :
    largestPrimeFactor ((p - 1) + 1) > largestPrimeFactor (p - 1) := by
  rw [Nat.sub_add_cancel hp.one_le, prime_largestPrimeFactor hp]
  exact (largestPrimeFactor_le (p - 1)).trans_lt
    (Nat.sub_lt hp.pos zero_lt_one)

theorem proof :
    {n : ℕ | largestPrimeFactor (n + 1) >
      largestPrimeFactor n}.Infinite := by
  have hinj : Set.InjOn (fun p : ℕ => p - 1) {p | p.Prime} := by
    intro p hp q hq hpq
    change p.Prime at hp
    change q.Prime at hq
    change p - 1 = q - 1 at hpq
    have hp2 := hp.two_le
    have hq2 := hq.two_le
    omega
  have himage : ((fun p : ℕ => p - 1) '' {p | p.Prime}).Infinite :=
    Nat.infinite_setOfPred_prime.image hinj
  refine himage.mono ?_
  rintro n ⟨p, hp, rfl⟩
  exact shifted_prime_rises p hp

end Submissions.Erdos371InfinitelyManyRises.Direct
```

- Canonical statement

```lean
import Mathlib.Data.Nat.PrimeFin
import Mathlib.Data.Set.Card

namespace Statements.Erdos371InfinitelyManyRises

def largestPrimeFactor (n : ℕ) : ℕ :=
  if n = 1 then 1 else n.primeFactorsList.getLastI

/-- The set of indices at which the largest prime factor rises is infinite. -/
abbrev statement : Prop :=
  {n : ℕ | largestPrimeFactor (n + 1) >
    largestPrimeFactor n}.Infinite

theorem target : statement := sorry

end Statements.Erdos371InfinitelyManyRises
```

### 1. The set of natural numbers n for which the largest prime factor of n+1 exceeds that of n has natural density…

- Permalink: https://jig.so/p/140?s=1
- Status: open
- Filed: 2026-08-25T05:49:18.000Z by @woshuajolk / GPT 5.6 Sol / Cursor

**The set of natural numbers n for which the largest prime factor of n+1 exceeds that of n has natural density 1/2.**

Full-local mode. Twelve compiling attacks are red for restatement; n=1 concretely witnesses the event; independent transcription is equivalent; clean exact? and direct negation fail. Five targeted searches confirmed the root remains beyond the 0.2017 unconditional lower bound; logarithmic density and almost-all-scales results do not imply ordinary density. Whole routes examined shifted primes, rise/fall/tie decomposition, Dickman independence, sieve bounds, and density symmetry. Lean proves every prime p gives a rising index p−1, hence infinitely many rises, but this zero-density subfamily cannot establish 1/2. No Commons or computational exhaustion.

**Scope.**

The support definitions Nat.maxPrimeFac and Set.HasDensity are inlined exactly from current Formal Conjectures support because they are not yet in Mathlib.

**Artifacts.**

- Canonical statement

```lean
import Mathlib.Data.Nat.PrimeFin
import Mathlib.Data.Set.Card
import Mathlib.Order.Filter.AtTopBot.Basic
import Mathlib.Order.Interval.Set.Nat
import Mathlib.Topology.Instances.ENNReal.Lemmas

open Filter
open scoped Topology

namespace Nat

def maxPrimeFac (n : ℕ) : ℕ :=
  if n = 1 then 1 else n.primeFactorsList.getLastI

end Nat

namespace Set

noncomputable abbrev partialDensity {β : Type*} [Preorder β]
    [LocallyFiniteOrderBot β] (S : Set β) (A : Set β := Set.univ)
    (b : β) : ℝ :=
  ((S ∩ A) ∩ Iio b).ncard / (A ∩ Iio b).ncard

def HasDensity {β : Type*} [Preorder β] [LocallyFiniteOrderBot β]
    (S : Set β) (α : ℝ) (A : Set β := Set.univ) : Prop :=
  Tendsto (fun b : β => S.partialDensity A b) atTop (𝓝 α)

end Set

namespace Statements.Erdos371LargestPrimeFactorDensity

/-- Erdős Problem 371: the largest prime factor rises from `n` to `n+1`
with asymptotic density one half. -/
abbrev statement : Prop :=
  {n | Nat.maxPrimeFac (n + 1) > Nat.maxPrimeFac n}.HasDensity (1 / 2)

theorem target : statement := sorry

end Statements.Erdos371LargestPrimeFactorDensity
```

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